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Edward II and Piers Gaveston by suburbanbeatnik Edward II and Piers Gaveston by suburbanbeatnik
So, after a few weeks I managed to finish my painting of Edward II and Piers Gaveston (the original study I did is here [link] ). It's inspired in part by Christopher Marlowe's play, and in part by the roles the wonderful Peter Hanly and Stephen Billington played in the less-than-wonderful "Braveheart." Edward, the ill-fated king, is the moody blond on the left, and the black-haired man in the red tunic on the right is his lover, the upstart Gascon knight Piers Gaveston. The woman in the background is Edward's wife Isabella, who eventually deposed her husband and arranged his murder.

I tried to put a number of symbols in the piece, including the oak to the far left, which represents kingship, and the unicorns on the goblet (in the middle ages, unicorns symbolized lust as well as chastity, interestingly enough).
I'm so pleased it's done- the fabrics and jewels and swords, among other things, took forever! But I think it turned out rather well.

(For further reading about Edward II, Alianore's blog [link] has lots of great information, and plenty of juicy 700 year old gossip too!)
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meisme133 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2011
KOOL!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks!
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stevenshipman Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2010
I love your style! Beautiful illustration :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! :)
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AngelusNoir Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2010  Professional General Artist
The details and the atmosphere are very well done...I really like the claustrophobic depiction of the lovers,and the isolation of the [understandably!petulant Isabella]...the way you have handled the details is delightfully painterly....my only concern would be Edward's right hand,which is not anatomically correct,but as a whole it is so fresh and lush looking,and the lovers look so intense and brooding,it's a very secondary consideration...great piece!!:clap:
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks for the dead-on review. It's hard for me to look at this piece anymore, because all I can see is that goofy hand. But I'm glad you like it anyway. This is just how I picture Edward and Piers, and if they didn't look like this, they should have. :XD:
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AmyTheSpiritSeeker Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Amazing!! This is very similar to how I pictured them while reading Marlowe's.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! I've never read any Marlowe at all though. (I have read very many trashy novels based on Marlowe, but I don't think it's the same...)
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AmyTheSpiritSeeker Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
LOL, I think I know some of the trashy ones you mean. :P I haven't decided yet if I want to read them or just forget it and keep working on my own (hopefully less trashy, lol.) I have to say that Edward is my favorite Marlowe play, and if one were to only read that one you'd have the best of Marlowe. Everyone seems to like Faustus a lot, but I found it rather...average, but still better than some of the others. Dido was boring. Massacre at Paris seemed pointless, but I think most of it lies in the action onstage, as there are a lot of gaps for fight scenes. I am still dreading schlepping through the second part of Tamburlaine - the dialogue consists of basically "I am a great ruler." "I'd be better." "STFU knave." "No U!" *fightfight*
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Haha, that's a really funny summary of it!

I still have a soft spot for Edward II trash, though. :D
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ChristianistheLawr Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2010   Writer
I'm a slash fan, but I first knew Edward II from The Accursed Kings... where he's a really bad, weak king.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Wasn't the Accursed Kings a French TV series?
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ChristianistheLawr Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2010   Writer
That and a book series. Awesome book.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Aug 10, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
I should check it out at some point!
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ChristianistheLawr Featured By Owner Aug 11, 2010   Writer
Worth it - full of intrigue, poisoning and sex. :D
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MakariaSophia Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2010
Gorgeous! The detailing is fantastic, especially the textures on the tunics and on the oak. And Gaveston's face is awesome.

Have you seen the 1969 version of Edward II, with Ian McKellen as Edward?
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! I love 14th century costume, it was so simple yet flattering.

Hmm, no, I've never heard of the 1969 version. I tried to watch the '91 Derek Jarman version, but that was pretty terrible.
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A-Tale-Of-Beauty Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2010
Beautiful, I love Isabella's glaring.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! She's a charming gal, ain't she? :)
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diddles25 Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Although in her defense, she was married off to Edward when she was only twelve (and Edward was about 24). She tolerated her husband's affair with Piers and even came to an understanding with Piers and she and Edward had four children together... but the marriage was condemned to disaster from the beginning.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
That's most likely the case.
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Aryastarkeradan Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2008
I have to say that you're amazingly skilled at drawing; I would like to draw as you do ;)!. I love the details in the clothes and the glimpse in Gaveston's eyes. Here in Italy there was a beautiful and original adaptation of Marlowe's piece, I appreciate that someone else likes it. Oh, also your portrait of Richard III is gorgeous. Keep up uploading:D
I'm going to watch you..
PS: Sorry for my bad English.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! I'm glad you like my medieval guys. The clothes and jewels took forever. :)

Edward II is a marvelous play, I wish I could see it live at one point (and in period dress too).
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LadyPakter4life Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Piers Gaveston is sexy here!!!!

How are you btw? Its been a long time!!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm good! I've been waiting for you to respond to my note, about the commission of Mary Tudor and Jane Dormer... you know, the one written back in November? ;P
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Arinya13 Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2008
Oh, I love this painting! The clothing, it looks like if you touched the paint you'd feel cloth instead.

I love the differences between the two main characters. Piers look so experienced and mature and Edward, although he also looks strong, he somehow seems a lot softer in his expression than Piers.

I love how you portray historical figures. They come alive in a way that is most fitting and beautiful. I would love to see some more medieval art from your hand. I love that historical period.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks for the great comment! The way you described the clothes, and the characters- that's exactly what I was going for. :)

Do you have any medieval people you'd like to see?
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Arinya13 Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2008
I'm only glad that my thoughts on your drawing was what you were going for when painting it. I'm surprised that it hasn't been added to people's favourites more often - I find it to be a very beautiful and powerful piece of art.

I really love the medieval period in history. I especially love to read about England and France in the middle ages. As for a couple I would like to see - well, I really love Joan of Arc/Gilles de Rais and Heloise/Abelard. It could be awesome to see what you could make of these couples. But I'm sure it would look beautiful - all your art is always beautiful!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I too was wondering why this hasn't gotten as much traffic as some of my other pieces, but then :iconmarksatchwill: has also done some 14th century portraits which are also kind of neglected. I'm wondering if people into medieval stuff tend to be more interested in fantasy than historical stuff...? *shrug*

Unfortunately I don't have the time or energy to do any other elaborate medieval portraits, but here's some period pics I did recently for Trillium Publishing. [link] [link]
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Arinya13 Featured By Owner Feb 21, 2008
You are probably right about most people being more interested in fantasy than historical stuff. I also love fantasy, but historical fashion, people and periods are just awesome. I love spending time reading about history and drawing/painting historical portraits or scenes from novels set in historical periods. History just makes me happy!

I love marksatchwill's art. His historical portraits are amazing!

It's a shame you don't have time to do any more of the elaborate medieval portraits. But I understand that work takes up all your time. I just have to say that the portraits you have done are very amazing and beautiful.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Well, I wouldn't mind doing more elaborate medieval portraits if somebody paid me. But I doubt I'll find that on dA! ;P
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Arinya13 Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2008
You never know! If I had more money I would be sure to pay you to do some medieval portraits. One can never get to much of beautiful historical artwork. Maybe one day!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Feb 22, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Hopefully! *crosses fingers*
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ryuuta Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2007
Beautiful details, I love the costumes.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! It was my first try at painting medieval clothes and lots of jewelry. :)
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SweetMe Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2007
tou are a very good drawer! wow! I liked this best! +fav
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LittleWriter Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2007   Writer
You are a beautiful painter, I love the style you use. :clap: Their expressions are wonderful, and the texture of their clothing.

It feels a lot like a book illustration, very inspirational! =D keep up the lovely work!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you! You can probably tell I love a lot of those late 19th century book illustrators, like Edmund Dulac, Arthur Rackham and Harry Clarke... I can spend hours looking at their work... :love:
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LittleWriter Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2007   Writer
Yep! I can tell. Keep working on them!
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LadyPakter4life Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
AMAZING!!

They were lovers...I knew that lol.

Its been awhile dude how ya been? :D
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
Not bad... just super distracted, as you now know. ;P I'm glad you like them.. aren't they a beautiful couple?
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LadyPakter4life Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
Beautiful couple indeed. Love gay couples.

Oooh you ought to draw Queen Mary I and Jane Dormer as a couple LOL. Maybe I could use it for the cover of my novel? Not without your permission of course. But, ohh the possibilities!

Antonio Moro painted Jane, she was actually quite pretty :)
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Leopreston Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2007  Professional General Artist
Ta da! Oh, I'd say you've got some good attention here... :D

Btw, well, the thing I like most about this is, not only the theme (love anything medieval), but the clothing too. I love the medieval influence, the story telling and the colours. Overall, I think you did a very good job! :lol:
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
Well, being an attention whore, enough is never enough for me. :blush: But I'm so glad you like it! I was so pleased with it that I actually posted a print on my fridge so I can have pretty medieval gay boys to look at me whenever I'm getting a ginger ale. Whee! ;P
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Leopreston Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2007  Professional General Artist
Lol, everyone's got to have pretty gay boys on their fridge... Lol! :D
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RedPassion Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
That i really great!! I love all these details in the clothes and the cup. :D You did a fantastic job!! I adore you for this! :worship:
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2007  Professional Traditional Artist
Thank you!! :love:
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RedPassion Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2007  Professional Digital Artist
You´re welcome as always!^^
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Susannaaaa Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2007
Most excellent. The costumes are gorgeous (especially the jewels) and AS EVAR I HEARTS TEH EXPRESSIONS. You are fab at conveying what people are thinking.
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Art-Yooyoo Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2007
The details are beautiful !
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