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Journal Entry: Thu May 15, 2008, 9:44 PM


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(This was originally posted in my Livejournal.)

I had a crappy day yesterday.  It started on Monday: minutes after I submitted my resume for a children's art teaching position, I was called up by S.W. from a company called "KidsArt Fine Art Classes" requesting an interview.  I was thrilled, and went to the interview; then it started to get a bit weird.  Saying she wanted to "get to know me," S.W. began asking all sorts of questions, like (I'm paraphrasing here) "What was a decision you made that you feel most altered the life of the person you made the decision for?"  At one point, she asked where my parents were; when I said they were deceased, she started asking, how did they die?  When did they die?  What did I do, and who took care of me?  Like a fool, I answered- I was trying to be charming and candid- although part of me wondered why she was being so intrusive.  Other than this weirdness, I thought it went well; at the end, she asked me to come back to observe a class.  I said I'd love to, and she replied after I attended the class, we would take things from there.  I thought that was a good sign, so I went away pleased.

But, lo and behold!  When I arrived home, there was an email in my inbox from this same woman, S.W., telling me that there was no need to come to the class, and that they would look elsewhere for a teacher.  It was phrased as sweetly as possible, but it was basically a big kiss off.  Considering that this was written only half an hour after an interview crammed with the most personal questions possible, I was insulted.  What a mind fuck! How crass and unprofessional is that?  Was she such a coward that she couldn't tell me to my face that I wasn't what she was looking for?  And this woman and her husband run the company!  I spent yesterday seething, while a few friends told me I was better off not working for these people, if they were going to treat someone who wasn't even working for them yet that badly.

Now it's back to the drawing board, in terms of looking for work.  However, I wanted to share this lovely experience with you all.  Isn't life in Los Angeles wonderful?

On the bright side, my previous entry, "Toga pr0n" has been linked by the amazing Smart Bitches of the Smart Bitches, Trashy Books blog.  I love you, Sarah and Candy!  (Side note: I am currently working on an illustration job for them, for their upcoming book from Simon & Schuster.)  I keep telling myself there are awesome people out there, even though of course there's lots of flakes and assholes. But there's such a thing as karma, right?






  • Listening to: my fan
  • Reading: "The Sand-Reckoner"- Gillian Bradshaw
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KingAndrewI Featured By Owner May 25, 2008  Student Artisan Crafter
Love the new journal! (or is it new?) But you don't have our club icon anywhere. I won't comment on the content since we've already had such an in-depth dicussion! :lol:
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 28, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Oops, my bad! (I was just pasting from Seitou's footer on LMH.) It's changed now. Thanks for letting me know!
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KingAndrewI Featured By Owner May 28, 2008  Student Artisan Crafter
:D
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elara-elara Featured By Owner May 18, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
I once had someone ask me if I live with a boyfriend, "You know, if you get in a fight or something you still need to come to work."

I'm not sure if this was the case with the person they were looking to replace, but still -totally inappropriate question.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
That definitely falls into the "creepy" category, too! That must have made you very uncomfortable...
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Majnouna Featured By Owner May 16, 2008  Professional General Artist
What a disturbing experience! I hope you were able to shake it off. Good luck on the job search, there must be a nice school somewhere looking for a good teacher :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! It certainly was disturbing. I may not end up being a teacher, though- I'm looking for part-time design jobs as well.
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TheDauphine Featured By Owner May 16, 2008
Wow, that’s just… odd.

Yes, she is a coward for not only asking such personal questions, but not telling you to your face that she would not hire you. There are better places to go work for, you don’t need them.

I’m sorry; I hope your job search goes better. :hug:
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! :D :hug:
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TheDauphine Featured By Owner May 19, 2008
You're welcome! :) :glomp:
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KeeganYoung Featured By Owner May 16, 2008
Who needs snooty bitches like them anyway?! In my worldly view, if someone as qualified as yourself doesn't make the cut somewhere then who on earth would? Regardless of such sentiments I'd agree with everyone else that your far better off without dealing with such idiosyncratic nobodies. I honestly wouldn't mind telling off that hebetudinous foul minded miscreant myself.....

I'm sure better places of employment await you elsewhere :D
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks, Keegan! You're a sweetie. :hug:
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KeeganYoung Featured By Owner May 20, 2008
Anytime Joanne!! Glad I could be of some help :glomp:
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Adrianna-Grezak Featured By Owner May 16, 2008
You should really email her back telling her off [maturely] how unprofessional she was. she definitely did not have the right to A. ask you those questions B. make the assumption that you were incapable of working with children without a psychologist present in the interview.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm not comfortable emailing that... person... but I agree, she was trying to do a psychological profile on me. Which really is just seven shades of creepy. Part of me is hoping she ends up hiring some borderline sociopath who spikes her coffee with rat poison.

(Which, btw, is one of the funniest scenes from that old movie "9 to 5."
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HabitualFlippancy Featured By Owner May 16, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Seriously, I'm sorry. That's just...ugh. What's wrong with people? I'm sorry hun. :( Job hunting is bad enough with out people frelling with you.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! :hug:

By the way- at the risk of sounding dumb- what does "frelling" mean?
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HabitualFlippancy Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You don't sound dumb at all. "Frell" (To frell, oh frell, frelling, get frelled etc) is a multi-purpose curse word from the show Farscape.* I need to tone down my use of English swears a lot. And Frell is the best Sci-fi swear ever. Hands down.

*On the show, everyone has "translator microbes" injected that work like a bablefish, except a tad different. It doesn't always translate every term (arn=hour) languages, (the Scarran and Pilot specie's languages per example) and certain curses (tralk=slut, dren=shit,frell=fuck.)

Yes, that was a rather extra long explanation to a simple question, but I am a hard core fangirl for this show. ;)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Cool! Thanks for letting me know. :D
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RedPassion Featured By Owner May 16, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
First....Hiho my dear. and tge secone...very pretty journal layout ;) And surely i´m soo sry cause of the interview...:( *big hug*

Ps:Did you got my note? :)
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Actually no, I didn't get your note. How odd. Anyway, I haven't forgotten about your prints! I encourage you send me reminders from time to time. It's always easier for me to get around to doing stuff when people nag me. :)
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RedPassion Featured By Owner May 20, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Hmmm....strange. However...;) Then i will tell you here again... and yes i know i should have remeber you on it. Thats why i wrote you, but well also you say by yourself its better when guys nag you, but well thats not my kind^^; But well ok as you wish....NAG!!!!!! ;P
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Himmapaan Featured By Owner May 16, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
What? 0_o

That is just ridiculous. What an extraordinary series of questions! Like you, however, I would have gone ahead and answered those questions too, upon the hope that I must have stood in fairly good stead if they were so interested in finding out about such personal things. But how utterly absurd after all that to find that email. :roll: I do sympathise.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, it was totally a Catch 22 situation- you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. Ah well. Thanks for the sympathies! I guess that sort of crap is bound to happen to everyone....
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Arinya13 Featured By Owner May 16, 2008
What a weird experience! I can't seem to get why she would want to know all these rather personal things about you? What has that even got to do with teaching children? And then the fact that she was such a coward, not able to tell it to your face, that you weren't the person they were looking for, but just sends you a mail, right after such a personal interview! I'm shocked and amazed at how rude some people can be. But I'm glad to hear that you are now feeling better. At least there is still some kind persons in this world!

So keep going! I love your art and I'm sure you will be lucky enough to find somewhere else to work, where the people are more nice!

Note : I was wondering, by the way, if you still have the story set in Revolutionary War era Philadelphia that you have since abandoned? The one with the redheaded redcoat, Captain Carey Dashwood, a Major Andre type, artistic, playful and sophisticated and the young lady, Esther Pole, a Patriot idealist who uses her wealthy Tory uncle's connections to spy on people like Captain Dashwood. I would love to read it, even though you have abandoned the idea - even if it's just in note form, I would still like to read it, if you will let me, of course!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 19, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, it was all pretty disgusting. Re: finding other jobs, I think I'll be better equipped to do that once it stops being so humid, and once my much-delayed stint of jury duty is over... Blurgh!

Thanks for the second note you sent! I shall respond to it when I have more energy. I'll also send you the Cicero/Clodia story after I work on it some more. Please feel free to send me any writing you like; I just can't promise when I'll get to it.

Re: the Rev War story, that never really got off the ground, and so I'm not comfortable sharing it with anyone. Thanks for understanding! :hug:
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Arinya13 Featured By Owner May 20, 2008
I hope everything works out fine! It's really maddening when these things happen!

I will look forward to reading both the note and the Cicero/Clodia story. I'm sorry to hear that the Rev War story never really got off the ground. I would have loved to read it, as I found your comments on it to be very interesting. But I understand!

I will send you my writings, then. I will just have to find the time to sit down and translate it and maybe make some changes. Right now I have 2 exams and the whole summer I will have to write my BA-project. But I will just send you a note before I send some stuff to you. And don't worry, I know all about having a lot to do, so I don't mind having to wait a while for any comments on my writing.

Take care and thank you,
Linda!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I look forward to reading your writing!

I just got hit with a bunch of stuff to do, but it should clear up soon. I'd like to tweak my C&C chapters a bit more before I send them you. How goes your BA project?
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Arinya13 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2008
Thank you! I don't know how soon I will be able to send you some of my writing. Currently I have started to translate the first chapter of a story I have written in Danish (it's about a man called Svend Poulsen Gønge and the novel is called Gøngehøvdingen). Svend Poulsen Gønge (1610 - 1679) was a Danish friskyttekaptajn, in about 1645 was nicknamed Gøngehøvdingen, as the leader of snaphanerne in the Danish-Swedish wars in the 1600s. Svend Poulsen Gønge have also formed the model for the main character in a novel by Carit Etlars, but I wanted to write my own novel of this amazing man. I will include some informations about the characters, the time and the wars so that you will be able to understand how and why.

I'm happy for you. It must be nice having a lot to do - it means that you will be able to earn some more money, right? It's okay with the C&C chapters. Please, take your time. I will be waiting.

Well, my project has been put on a hold for the time being as I have to finish my excams first. But I have a lot of material to read through once again and then decide how I will go about the project and then, of course, start writing. I'm so excited. I just love the 18th century and honour among sea officers - well, it just couldn't be any better!

Have a nice week and take care
All the best, Linda
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I hope everything's going well with exams! I'm sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you...

How's the novel coming along? How awesome that we're writing stories set during the same period! What do you think of the '92 "Gøngehøvdingen" miniseries? I saw a few clips on YouTube and it looked hilariously cheesy- it kind of reminded me a bit of "The Lady and the Highwayman" and "By the Sword Divided," two very amusing 1980s British TV dramas set during the English Civil War and Restoration.
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Arinya13 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2008
Thank you for thinking of me. Work is going fine. I got fine marks for my exams. Right now I'm working on my BA-project, so I will be reading and writing on the honour of sea-officers in the Danish navy in the 18th century the next few months (until the start of September), and I love it!

I have just read your note and as soon as I will be able I will answer it. I simply love this novel of yours and I will look forward to be reading more in the future. It would be wonderful if you were able to get it published one day. Un til that happens I will just keep the pages you give me permission to read in a special briefcase so that I will be able to read it again and again.

I have started to translate some of the information on my novel and started taking a look at the first chapter. I don't know exactly when I will be able to send it to you, as I will make sure there are as little spelling mistakes as possible.

Yes, it's awesome that we both seem to love this period in history - but what's not to love? I have seen the '92 "Gøngehøvdingen" miniseries a couple of times. Although a lot was left out from the original novels (there are two) I really loved watching it. A little cheesy television never hurt anyone.

I also got the note telling me that I have been accepted on English next semester. We have to have an extra subject as we strive to finish the BA-project and get feedback on our work.

I also want to thank you for liking my notes and comments on your work. I will love talking to you some more. Have a nice week!

All the best,
Linda
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm so flattered you're rereading Paintbox. Wow! I guess you'll be one of the founding members of my fan club when I get published one day, right? ;P

Anyway, I'm looking forward to your note and to your story. But I totally understand if you're busy. Things have bee craaaazy out here, what with two major conventions on two consecutive weekends. Whee!
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Seitou Featured By Owner May 15, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ouch... o___o;;; That's one hell of an awkward interview. Whenever people start asking those types of personal questions, it's hard to resist the urge to tell them to "mind their own business." But at least you were honest with them. Most people during interviews say what they think their employers want to hear, and that's just pretty low >O> I guess I'll have to watch out for those types of questions whenever I sit down for an interview .__.;;

And that is really rude o___O Really, to get your hopes up and then completely drop you like that is just horrible. But if she couldn't say to your face that you weren't what she was looking for, then that just goes to show you the type of person she really is. If a person can't be completely honest with you (especially after you were completely honest with her), then that's not the type of person you want to work with.

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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 15, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Aww, thanks! Thanks for the rant on my behalf. I felt so low yesterday, and today I've felt much better after talking to my friends. :hug:
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om-nom-berries Featured By Owner May 15, 2008
Wow, what the hell? God, it's hard enough when you're looking for jobs. I hate when people are rude and pull mind-trips on you.
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 15, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I guess I'm lucky this is the first time this has happened to me. :/ (My agent said this kind of thing had happened several times recently to her husband, as he was looking for work.) But it was still pretty awful.

But I feel better after posting this. You guys rock! :D
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om-nom-berries Featured By Owner May 15, 2008
Oh yeah, and I love Smart Bitches, Trashy Books. That's great that you're doing work for them!
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suburbanbeatnik Featured By Owner May 15, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I know! I'm so thrilled. Sarah contacted me recently about doing a few interior illustrations for them (she had clicked on my website link after I'd posted a comment on an entry about book covers), and an art release agreement was emailed to me from Simon & Schuster shortly after. The thought of working with them still fills me with fangirlish glee. :D
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